
The Ancient Nazarene Sanhedrin and the Talmud
By
James Scott Trimm
We read in the Torah:
Judges and officers shall you make you in all your gates, which YHWH your Elohim gives you, tribe by tribe. And they shall judge the people with righteous judgment.
(Deut. 16:18 HRV)
8 If there arise a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke–even matters of controversy within your gates–then shall you arise, and get you up unto the place which YHWH your Elohim shall choose.
9 And you shall come unto the cohanim, the L’vi’im, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and you shall inquire. And they shall declare unto you the sentence of judgment.
10 And you shall do, according to the tenor of the sentence, which they shall declare unto you from that place which YHWH shall choose, and you shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you.
11 According to the Torah which they shall teach you, and according to the judgment which they shall tell you, you shall do. You shall not turn aside from the sentence which they shall declare unto you, to the right hand nor to the left.
12 And the man that does presumptuously, in not hearkening unto the cohen, that stands to minister there before YHWH your Elohim, or unto the judge, even that man shall die, and you shall exterminate the evil from Yisra’el.
(Deut. 17:8-12 HRV)
The phrase “According to the Torah” in the Hebrew is על פי התורה which could literally be translated “according to the Oral Torah”. The word על means “about, concerning, according to”; the word פי means “mouth” or “oral”. and the word התורה means “the Torah”. This phrase is the source of the Hebrew phrase תורה שבעל פה “Oral Law” (פי is the construct form of פה). (There are two kinds of Oral Law: Oral Law from Sinai and these Judgments of the Court.)
This sheds light on an event recorded by Matthew:
15 And Yeshua said to them: And you … who say you, that I am?
16 Then answered Shim’on Kefa, saying, You are Messiah, the Son of the Living Elohim.
17 And Yeshua said to him: Happy are you Shim’on Ben Yonah, for this was not revealed to flesh and blood
but to you, when it was revealed to you by My Father which is in heaven.
18 And I tell you, that you are Kefa, and upon this rock I will build My assembly, and the gates of takh’ti will not prevail against you.
19 And to you will I give the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you shall prohibit on earth, shall be prohibited in heaven: and whatever you will permit on earth, has been permitted in heaven.
(Matthew 16:15-19 from DuTillet Hebrew)
The “Assembly” here refers the judges of the Torah court. Kefa is said to be given the “keys” because he is being appointed to the office of Av Beit Din (The Av Beit Din controlled who could enter the court and was said to hold the “keys”) . The Torah courts were headed by two individuals, a Nasi (president) and Av Beit Din (vice-president and sergeant of arms.) The words “prohibit” (אסור) and “permit” (מותר) are literally “bind” and “loose” and are idiomatic expressions in Hebrew used to refer to the authority of the judges to prohibit and permit activities.
We can see that this is the “assembly” to which Yeshua refers, by comparing with Matthew 18:
15 And if your brother sins against you, go and reprove him between you and him alone: and if he will hear you, you have won your brother.
16 But if he will not hear you, take to yourself one witness or two: that at the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word may be established.
17 And if he will not hear them, speak to him in the assembly: but if he neglects to hear in the assembly, let him be to you as a Goy or a transgressor.
18 Truly I tell you, all that you will prohibit on earth has been prohibited in heaven also, and all that you will permit on earth has been permitted in heaven also.
19 Again I tell you: If two of you might be worthy566 on earth567 as touching a thing that they will ask, it will be for them of My Father which is in heaven.
20 For in every place where two or three will assemble in My Name, there am I in the midst of them.
(Matthew 18:15-20 from DuTillet Hebrew)
Here again we see this “assembly” which has the power to “prohibit” (bind) and “permit” (loose). This time we see it in context of an assembly which receives the testimony of which “at the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word may be established.” quoting Deut. 19:15:
15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sins. At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall a matter be established.
16 If an unrighteous witness rise up against any man, to bear perverted witness against him,
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before YHWH; before the cohanim and the judges that shall be in those days.
18 And the judges shall inquire diligently: and behold, if the witness be a false witness, and has testified falsely against his brother,
(Deut. 19:15-18 HRV)
This is the same “judges that shall be in those days” (Deut. 19:17) that we read about earlier in Deut 17:9 who give rulings that are על פי התורה i.e. תורה שבעל פה “Oral Law”.
In other words, Yeshua as Messiah designated his Emissaries as the “judges that shall be in those days” i.e. a Nazarene Sanhedrin.
We see this body meet, consider and make such a ruling In Acts 15. Here the Emissaries consider a matter of halacha (must gentiles be circumcised to be saved). We see that Ya’akov HaTzadik (James the Just) is presiding as Nasi, and Kefa is acting as Av Beit Din.
Having established that Yeshua transferred the authority to “bind and loose” to the Nazarene Sanhedrin somewhere around 30 C.E. Where do we as Nazarenes draw the line between rulings that we generally accept on the authority of the court prior to that time, verses after that time? This matter is made simple by history.
I have said many times that Yeshua was a teacher of the School of Hillel, and that Yeshua agreed with the school of Hillel in most of his teachings (the matter of cause for divorce being an unusual exception.) Hillel served as Nasi until about 10 CE when his son Shimon became Nasi. Hillel’s son Shimon was almost certainly the Shimon that blessed the infant Yeshua (Luke 2:25-35) Shimon served as Nasi from around 10 CE to about 20 CE when his son Gamaliel became Nasi. (This Pharisaic Sanhedrin should not be connfused by a Political Sanhedrin by the same name, headed by the High Priest, which convicted Yeshua). Interestingly the Rabbinic literature preserves very little information about Shimon, and not one of the rulings of the Sanhedrin under his leadership. This creates a convenient buffer zone for Nazarene Judaism. Rulings of the Torah Courts up thru and including the Court of Hillel are binding (unless they come into direct conflict with a ruling by Yeshua and the Emissaries, in which case we have a case of Horayot (errant rulings) as is the case with the question of legitimate cause for divorce.
However with the Pharisaic and Rabbinic Rulings of the Pharisaic Sanhedrin and Rabbinic Sages beginning with Gamaliel, we should not reject them out of hand, but scrutinize them. Fortunately the Talmuds (which contain the rulings and deliberations of these courts and later Rabbinic sages) lay out the logic of the arguments and preserve the minority opinions, even exploring the logic and nuances of the minority views to their fullest conclusion.
We can then analyze these arguments in light of the methodology Yeshua and the Emissaries used in making halachic determinations. (I have written a detailed analysis of this methodology which you can read by clicking here.)
I am often asked if Nazarenes should “keep the Talmud”. The answer is that the Talmud is not “kept” it is studied. Here we as Nazarenes can certainly follow the admonition of the late Talmud Scholar Adin Steinsaltz:
Voicing doubts is not only legitimate in the Talmud, it is essential to study. To a certain degree, the rule is that any type of query is permissible even desirable; the more the merrier. No inquiry is regarded as unfair or incorrect as long as it pertains to the issue and can cast light on some aspect of it. This is true not only of the Talmud itself but also of the way in which it is studied and perused. After absorbing the basic material, the student is expected to pose questions to himself and to others and to voice doubts and reservations. From this point of view, the Talmud is perhaps the only sacred book in all of world culture that permits and even encourages the student to question it.
(The Essential Talmud by Adin Steinsaltz p. 8)

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“The phrase “According to the Torah” in the Hebrew is על פי התורה which could literally be translated “according to the Oral Torah””
Claiming this verse is proof of an oral law, which rabbis claim is their Babylonia Talmud is a bit of a stretch of the truth. Mouth is referring to the speaking of the solution the Lowy are to derive from doing their job. Their job was to look at Yahowah’s Towrah to settle all disputes, these men were not charged to add their opinions to any decree accept in making sure the judgement was carried out exactly as prescribed.
I know this is not going to be well received but Moseh was very clear he scribed all the words spoken by Yahowah adding nothing of his own. Moseh received Towrah over 40 days, rabbis are to claim God had more to say that Moseh did not write down? Is this not calling Yahowah and Moseh liars?
Not at all. the passage that says Moshe wrote all of the words occurs before he even went up on Mount Sinai. If that passage proves the oral Torah was an addition, then it would also prove the written Torah from Mount Sinai is an addition. And an argument that proves too much, proves nothing at all.
Can you provide proof of this claim?
We are told by Moseh:
“These are the words (‘eth ha dabar ha ‘eleh – these specifically are the statements) Yahowah (Yahowah – written as directed by His towrah – teaching) communicated (dabar – spoke and expressed at that time (piel perfect)) to (‘el) everyone (kol – the entire and whole) of you assembled (qahal ‘atah – of your gathering together, your contingent and community) beside (ba) the mountain (ha har – the high and elevated ridgeline), from (min – out of) the midst (tawek) of the fire and light (‘esh – of radiant energy and brilliant flames) reduced in magnitude (choshek – so as to obscure Himself by reducing the extent of His light [from 4QDeut]) by the dense water-laden (wa ha ‘araphel – as well as the thick) cloud (‘anan) with a great and powerful (gadowl – substantial and magnificent, important and distinguished, even glorious) voice (qowl).
He did not add anything more (wa lo’ yasaph). And (wa) He wrote them, engraving them (kathab hem – He inscribed them using alphabetic letters to form written words) on (‘al) Two (shanaym) Tablets (luwach – slabs, tables, or plates suitable for chiseling and inscribing words) of Stone (‘eben – solid rock). Then, He gave them (wa nathan hem – He prepared, produces, and handed them as a gift) to me (‘el ‘any – as God to myself).” (Dabarym / Words / Deuteronomy 5:22)
Deut. 5:22 takes place *before* Moshe went up on Mount Sinai to receive the Torah (Deut. 5:23-27) so it only refers to what was given at that time, not what was given afterwards.
Again, can you provide a verse where at any time an oral law was given?
If not the Christian Paul, Muhammad, Joseph Smith’s claims of oral recitals from their rendition of god are equally valid.
Rabbis claim the oral law is superior to the Towrah scribed by Moseh, then again this is the basis of all religions. Do not add to or subtract from, is very simple to understand. The same as on the first month Abib, count 14 days to Pesach. The rabbis celebrate the Babylonian new year on the 7th month when Yahowah instructs Pesach in the first month. How do you explain this and other additions to the feast days? Especially in the light of the instructions to observe the miqra as eternal and everlasting times to approach God.
This is not rocket science, if you ignore the instructions given Moseh, add your own including removing His name all 7000 times it appears in His word it’s easy to conclude you’re either playing lip service to God or have created another god.
Q: Again, can you provide a verse where at any time an oral law was given?
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You said “Rabbis claim the oral law is superior to the Towrah scribed by Moseh, then again this is the basis of all religions”
Can you tell me exactly what Rabbi you are citing says exactly what?
You said: “Do not add to or subtract from, is very simple to understand.”
You are circular thinking. If the oral law is an organic part of the Torah, then Oral Law rejectors are subtracting.
You said: The rabbis celebrate the Babylonian new year on the 7th month when Yahowah instructs Pesach in the first month.
See: Is the Feast of Trumpets Rosh HaShanna?
Also you said: “including removing His name all 7000 times it appears in His word ”
See: Nazarenes and the Name of YHWH
https://nazarenejudaism.com/?page_id=381
You said “Rabbis claim the oral law is superior to the Towrah scribed by Moseh”
I believe you are referring to a statement made in b.Eruvin 21b which has been quoted as “My son! Be careful concerning Rabbinical decrees even more than the Torah… the Torah contains prohibitions… but anyone who violates a Rabbinical decree is worthy of death.”
The quote is not from “the Rabbis” but from Raba. The quote actually says:
Raba made the following exposition: What is the purport of the Scriptural text: And, furthermore my son, be admonished: Of making many books etc.? My son, be more careful in [the observance of] the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah, for in the laws of the Torah there are positive and negative precepts; but, as to the laws of the Scribes, whoever transgresses any of the enactments of the Scribes incurs the penalty of death. In case you should object: If they are of real value why were they not recorded [in the Torah]? Scripture stated: ‘Of making many books there is no end’.
This passage does not speak of the Oral Law in general, but only to the rulings of the halachic courts (not to “Oral Law” from Sinai.)
The passage is simply referring to a fact about the written Torah. In the written Torah there are negative and positive precepts which have various penalties, sometimes death, but sometimes a fine, a period of servitude, or just a state of uncleanness. However the written Torah says:
8 If there arise a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke–even matters of controversy within your gates–then shall you arise, and get you up unto the place which YHWH your Elohim shall choose.
9 And you shall come unto the cohanim, the L’vi’im, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and you shall inquire. And they shall declare unto you the sentence of judgment.
10 And you shall do, according to the tenor of the sentence, which they shall declare unto you from that place which YHWH shall choose, and you shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you.
11 According to the Torah which they shall teach you, and according to the judgment which they shall tell you, you shall do. You shall not turn aside from the sentence which they shall declare unto you, to the right hand nor to the left.
12 And the man that does presumptuously, in not hearkening unto the cohen, that stands to minister there before YHWH your Elohim, or unto the judge, even that man shall die, and you shall exterminate the evil from Yisra’el.
(Deut. 17:8-12 HRV)
So Rabba makes the observation “whoever transgresses any of the enactments of the Scribes incurs the penalty of death” because whoever violates the decrees from these Torah courts incurs the death penalty in every case.
This is simply a fact.
Very interesting. May the peace of the Eternal G-d and the Messiah Yeshua be with you!