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What do You Mean.... Under the Law?
By
James Scott Trimm



Often when I share with Christians that the Torah is everlasting, for all generations, they respond by saying, "But we're not under the law."

The phrase "under the law" appears only twelve times in the Greek New Testament and only in Paul's writings:

Now we know that what things soever the law saith,
it saith to them who are under the law:
that every mouth may be stopped,
and all the world may become guilty before God.
(Rom. 3:19 KJV)

For sin shall not have dominion over you:
for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law,
but under grace? God forbid.
(Rom. 6:14-15 KJV)

20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew,
that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law,
as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law,
(being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,)
that I might gain them that are without law.
(1Cor. 9:20-21 KJV)

But before faith came, we were kept under the law,
shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
(Gal. 3:23 KJV)

4  But when the fulness of the time was come,
God sent forth his Son, made of a woman,
made under the law,
5  To redeem them that were under the law,
that we might receive the adoption of sons.
(Gal. 4:4-5 KJV)

Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law,
do ye not hear the law?
(Gal. 4:21 KJV)

But if ye be led of the Spirit,
ye are not under the law.
(Gal. 5:18 KJV)

It is important to note that the phrase "under the law" is used in the Greek New Testament in several places where it does not appear in the original Aramaic text:

But we know that what the Torah said,
it said, to those who are in the Torah:
that every mouth might be shut,
and the entire world might be found guilty before Eloah.
(Rom. 3:19 HRV)

And to those who are without the Torah,
I was like those without the Torah,
although I am not to Eloah without the Torah,
but I am in the Torah of the Messiah that I might gain
them--even those who are without the Torah.
(1Cor. 9:21 HRV)

But until Trust comes, the Torah is guarding us,
while we shut up to trust which is ready to be revealed.
(Gal. 3:23 HRV)

The phrase "under the law" was actually read into each of these three verses by the Greek translator.  But how should we understand the phrase "under the law" in the other nine instances where it appears both in the Aramaic and in the Greek:

For sin shall not have dominion over you:
for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law,
but under grace? God forbid.
(Rom. 6:14-15 KJV)

20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew,
that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law,
as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
(1Cor. 9:20 KJV)

4  But when the fulness of the time was come,
God sent forth his Son, made of a woman,
made under the law,
5  To redeem them that were under the law,
that we might receive the adoption of sons.
(Gal. 4:4-5 KJV)

Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law,
do ye not hear the law?
(Gal. 4:21 KJV)

But if ye be led of the Spirit,
ye are not under the law.
(Gal. 5:18 KJV)

This phrase may best be understood from its usage in Rom. 6:14-15:

For sin shall not have dominion over you:
for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law,
but under grace? God forbid.
(Rom. 6:14-15 KJV)

If we look at this passage carefully we can see that Paul sees "under grace" and "under the law" as diametrically opposed, one cannot be both.

The truth is that we have always been under grace we have never been "under the law".   In fact the real truth is that men of the "Old Testament" times were just as under grace as we are today:

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of YHWH."
(Genesis 6:8)

"...you have also found grace in my sight...."
(Exodus 33:12)

"...for you have found grace in my sight..."
(Exodus 33:17)

"...and now I have found grace in your sight..."
(Judges 6:17)

"The people... found grace in the wilderness..."
(Jeremiah 31:2)

Thus as noble Bereans we learn from the Tanak that people in "Old Testament" times were saved by grace through faith. They could not have earned their salvation any more than we could today, as Paul writes:

"Knowing that a man is not justified by works of the law, but by the faith of Yeshua the Messiah, even we have believed in Yeshua the Messiah, that we might be justified by the faith of Messiah, and not by works of the law; and by the works of the law shall no flesh be saved."
(Galatians 2:16)

In fact the "New Testament" contains more commandments than the "Old Testament". The New Testament contains 1050 commandments [as delineated in Dake's Annotated Reference Bible; By Finnis Jennings Dake; N.T. pp.313-316] while the "Old Testament" Mosaic Law contains only 613 (b.Makkot 23b; see Appendix). Thus faith and grace are in the "Old Testament" and law and works can be found in the New Testament. People in Old Testament times were saved by grace through faith just like people in New Testament times. Now many anomians will agree to this fact on the surface, but lets follow this thought through to its fullest conclusion. Lets go beyond the surface and really think this through. If what we have shown to be true is true, then the people in the wilderness in the days of Moses were saved by grace through faith. Now lets look at the full impact of that statement. That means that people were under grace, and saved by faith alone and not by works, when Moses was stoning people to death for violating the Torah! Obviously then being saved by grace through faith in no way affects Torah observance.

So if grace and faith do not negate the observance of Torah, then what is the true nature of faith and grace? What is faith? What is grace? Let us once again turn to the scriptures for answers.

Now part of the reason that many people have come to think that there is more "grace" in the New Testament than in the Old Testament is a translation bias in the KJV and many other English versions.

There are two words for "grace" in the Hebrew Tanak. The first word is CHEN (Strong's 2580/2581) which means "grace or charm". The other word is CHESED (Strong's 2616/2617 ) which carries the meaning of "grace, mercy or undue favor."

These two words closely parallel the meanings of the two Greek words used for grace in the Greek Bible. These are CHARIS (Strong's 5485/5463) which means "grace or charm" and ELEOS (Strong's 1651/1653) meaning "grace, mercy or undue favor."

Obviously Hebrew CHEN = Greek CHARIS and Hebrew CHESED = Greek ELEOS. Now the KJV tends to translate CHEN/CHARIS as "grace" but tends to translate CHESED/ELEOS as "mercy". Now when we think of "grace" in biblical terms we are ussually thinking of the concept of CHESED/ELEOS "undue favor".

Now if we follow with the KJV translation scheme then it appears that there is much more grace in the New Testament than the Tanak, since CHEN only appears 70 times in the Tanak while CHARIS appears 233 times in the New Testament. But remember, the concept of "undue favor" is actually CHESED/ELEOS. CHESED appears 251 times in the Tanak, while ELEOS appears only 50 times in the New Testament. If anything there is far more "grace" in the Tanak than in the New Testament.

Now let us turn to the Tanak to get a better understanding of what grace really is. According to the Scriptures there is a close connection between "grace" and the "fear of YHWH":

"For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his grace (CHESED) toward those who fear him."
(Psalm 103:11)

"Oh let those who fear YHWH say, 'His grace (CHESED) is everlasting.' "
(Psalm 118:4)

"By grace (CHESED) and truth iniquity is atoned for, and by the fear of YHWH one keeps away from evil."
(Proverbs 16:6)

And the fear of YHWH, according to the Tanak, includes Torah observance:

"...that he may learn the fear of YHWH his God, to keep all the words of this Torah and these statutes, to do them:"
(Deuteronomy 17:19)

"...that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear YHWH your God, and observe to do all the words of this Torah."
(Deuteronomy 31:12)

Therefore there is clearly no conflict between grace and Torah. In fact the Torah is closely connected to grace.

This is because the Torah was created for man, man was not created for the Torah.  This is taught in the Talmud in regards to the Sabbath:

For it is holy unto you;
I.e., it [the Sabbath] is committed to your hands,
not you to its hands."
(b.Yoma 85b)

Likewise the same concept was taught by Yeshua:

And He said to them: The Sabbath was made for a son of man,
<and not a son of man for the Sabbath.>
(Mk. 2:27 HRV)

By contrast the Essene Halacha concerning Shabbat was the strictest of any sect of Judaism. Josephus writes of the Essenes:

…they [Essenes] are stricter than any other of the Jews in resting
from their labors on the seventh day; for they not only get their food
ready the day before, that they not be obliged to kindle a fire on
that day, but they will not remove any vessel out of its place, nor go
to stool thereon.
(Wars 2:8:9)

There is a lengthy discussion of the Sabbath in the Damascus Document, I will include here only some key points:

No man shall eat on the Sabbath day aught save that which is prepared
or perishing (in the field). Nor shall one eat or drink unless in the
camp. (If he was) on the way and went down to wash he may drink where
he stands, but he shall not draw into any vessel. … No man shall walk
after the animal to pasture it outside his city more than two thousand
cubits. None shall lift his hand to smite it with (his) fist. If it
be stubborn he shall not remove it out of his house. No man shall
carry anything from the house to the outside or from the outside into
the house, and if he be in the vestibule he shall not carry anything
out of it or bring in anything into it. … Let not the nursing father
take the sucking child to go out or to come in on the Sabbath. … No
man shall help an animal in its delivery on the Sabbath day. And if
it falls into a pit or ditch, he shall not raise it on the Sabbath. …
And if any person falls into a place of water or into a place of… he
shall not bring him up by a ladder or a cord or instrument. No man
shall offer anything on the altar on the Sabbath, save the
burnt-offering of the Sabbath, for so it is written `Excepting your
Sabbaths'.
(Damascus Document 10:14-11:18)

Note that the Essene Halacha was so strict as to place Sabbath observance above human life.  The Essenes believed that man was positionally "under the law" and could only earn his salvation through Torah Observance.  While Yeshua and the Pharisees taught that the Torah was under man, and not a path to salvation.


"Under the law" then, is not an obsolete Old Testament system, but a false teaching, which was never true.

When Paul speaks out against the "under the law" it is like a Baptist preacher speaking out against "Latter Day Saints", he does not mean the words according to their literal meaning, he has nothing against "Saints" who live in the "Latter Days" he is using the Mormon's theological technical term to refer to their theology.

At this point we must address Galatians 4:4-5:

4  But when the fulness of the time was come,
God sent forth his Son, made of a woman,
made under the law,
5  To redeem them that were under the law,
that we might receive the adoption of sons.
(Gal. 4:4-5 KJV)

Here Paul uses irony to tell those that are in the false "under the law" theology, a theology that taught that salvation must be earned through Torah observance, that there is only one man who was actually born "under the law" in that he did actually earn salvation; the Messiah Yeshua.

There can be no doubt that Paul sees "under the law" as categorically bad, yet Paul calls the Torah itself "holy, just and good" (Rom. 7:12), certainly Paul does not use the phrase "under the law" to refer to the Torah itself.

 

HaSatan wishes "to steal and to kill and to destroy" (Jn. 10:10) and he knows the time is short and has stepped up his war with those who proclaim both Torah Observance and Faith in Messiah (the two pillars of Nazarene Judaism) (Rev. 12:12, 17; 13:7). But no weapon forged against us will prosper (Is. 54:17).


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Comment by Joseph S on July 31, 2012 at 7:56pm

Galatians4:4-5_____Sounds to me that Paul knew full well that the 'divorced house of Israel' needed to be redeemed first before it could ever be brought back together with Judah to be formed into the whole house of Israel again.Who were subject to YHVH's laws but the Hebrews? They were the ones kicked out of the land. When YHVH kicked the 'goyim/gentlies' out of that area He did so with the Hebrews led by Joshua...He did so by force of sword. The 'goyim/gentiles' were subject to YHVH's "will", but when He kicked the Hebrews out of the 'land'  YHVH did so because they broke His laws and commandments and would not repent. Who are 'subjects of the law'? The Hebrews.....Now the exile of the house of Israel is over. If we have accepted the Savior as our sacrifice then we are forgiven, which means that we are 'back in covenant' with the Father/YHVH, and with a 'better' covenant because Yahushua is our sacrifice for sin and He is forever and we don't have to sacrifice an animal, hence that ritual is over...that ritual law or canon is done....... If we "repent" of the errors and stiffnecked rebellion of our fore fathers who used symbols of other gods and built altars in high places 'in the land' to these gods....if we repent of this then we can become members of the House of Israel, redeemed and reunited with the house of Judah to become the whole house of Israel and we will be regathered into the land once again.....and these 'whole house of Israel' members will have Yahushua in common and as their redeemer and their covenant....covenant redeemer.

YHVH speaks to His people through His customs, His artifacts of culture...if you change all that then you have nothing from YHVH but a jumbled mess....You will not be allowed to be a member of the culture if your intent is to change it, whether you are Judahite or an 'Israelite/Josephite'....There is a reason why the House of Israel -ten tribes, aka 'Ephrayim',is changed to the name "House of Joseph"......

different voices, different perspective, different time.....

Comment by Donald Ledbetter on August 1, 2012 at 3:08am

The Jews did not believe in Yashua and therefore they were lost.  Before Yashua they were under the Torah but now we are all under the Torah and Yashua too.  The Torah brings us to Yashua and Yashua saves us.  Without both there is no salvation, just as it says in The Book of Revelation:  Keep the Torah and Trust in Yashua for Salvation, because you kept the Torah faithfully.

There is no question that The Heavenly Father, the one who with HIS Sons help, created the heavens and the earth.  It says so in the first verse of the Bible.  In the second verse it says that there was a heaven and an earth.  The heaven and the earth was already there and did not need to be re created.  It just needed to be refreshed.  Underneath all of that water was everything that was needed to uphold life and once the darkness that was hiding it was removed, there was the heavens. All of the stars were still there and still lighting up the heavens.  The atmosphere of the earth was just as it was, just a little less oxygen than before and that meant this earth was not capable of supporting extremely large animals as before.  Everything weighed more than they did before the vast flood that killed all life on this planet.  Someone just needed to light the spark of life and everything came back, including Satan.

Satan was bigheaded and very jealous of his creator.  Satan wanted to be number one and that needed another heaven that was above the heaven of his creator.  Since his creator lived in the 7th heaven, there must be an 8th heaven.  There was just one thing wrong.  There was no 8th heaven and Satan could not create one.  SO, he created an imitation.  Actually he created two imitations.  The first one on this earth was in the country known as Shinar and it was called the Babylonian Sun God Religion and it even had a son of Satan in which Satan played the part of his own son.  He called himself Tammuz the Branch after Yashua the SON of YHWH.  After everything went awry, Tammuz got killed by a wild pig, and Yashua was born and died on the evil cross, Satan had to come up with another imitation religion with an imitation Tammuz.  Since Satan was not very smart, he used the same Babylonian religion with different names to fool the gullible people into believing that it was very real.  This new religion, that was no so real, was called Christianity and the new Tammuz was called Jesus Christ.  Satan played the part of Jesus Christ.  It was an amazing success.  Now he had his 8th heaven, but he did not count on YHWH.  The Heavenly Father was still way ahead of Satan.

 YHWH allowed this perversion to continue in order to test and to prove who would follow him and who would follow Satan.  What do you know.  His people, but not all of them, were the only ones that realized that Christianity was a fake.  An imitation.  The ones that realized what was going on came to the knowledge of Yashua and what he meant to them.  He was their Salvation.  Their only Salvation.  He did not do away with the word of YHWH, He just fulfilled it.  The Torah was just the first grade Primer, Yashua was the graduation certificate.  Without the Primer there would be no graduation certificate.  You cannot have one without the other.  One does not throw away what he has learned all those years in order to get the graduation certificate.  DUH.

This was all the plan of YHWH and it was perfect.  According to the book or Romans chapter 9, YHWH does not love everyone.  Only the ones that prove themselves to HIM.  Since all souls were created by YHWH before the foundation of the universe, we are very old.  Possibly billions of years old.  We have been given enough time to prove ourselves to YHWH and we have.  Sadly very few passed the test. 

The rest will reside with Satan and his angels in the Lake of Fire with all of the Christians.  They did not make the 8th heaven, but they sorely tried.  At least they got to live with their god for eternity.  If there were an 8th heaven, there would have to be eight days in a week and another millennium of a worse world than we live in now.  FAR WORSE.  Satan, the old trickster, cannot win.

WHY?  YHWH IS STILL IN CHARGE AND WILL ALWAYS BE.  “Get over it.”

The Hebrew language was created by YHWH for His chosen people and that is known as the perfect language.  Why else would HE use another language to record the Bible?  “He would not”. 


The Greek language is a very evil language created for an evil world by a very evil people and they love it.  The Greek lifestyle comes directly from the people who caused the flood of Noah.

The Catholic Religion is a very evil religion for lazy people who do not want to work for their salvation and so they require the Teachers to do it for them.  This attitude came directly from the Catholic Church and spread out to every Christian church.  “go ye” means nothing to Christianity.  They only believe in “go you” referring to someone else.  Christianity gets very angry when you mention work.  Very Lazy People.  YHWH despises lazy people, but Satan loves them.

Surprise!  The Catholic Religion will be the religion of the One World of the AntiChrist. The Last Pope will be the False Prophet and it will not be Pope Benedict.  He has a casket.  The False Prophet does not need one.  He will be cast into the Lake of Fire while he is still alive.  Of course there is that eye blink. He will be changed to immortality in the twinkling of an eye.  Jack Van Impe is a liar.  It will take a little bit longer to go up to Yashua. Maybe two blinks.  I heard one man say that in heaven, everything is all in one place.  To go somewhere else you just stay in one place.

The Catholic Religion is Christianity, so what does that mean to you.  If you are still a member during the time of Jacobs trouble, you will end up in the Lake of Fire with all the other evil and lazy people.  Give Satan a very big hug and a KISS.

The so called Rapture is not a resurrection.  It is a Reaping.  The first resurrection is the ones who will be beheaded at the end of this age. 

The second resurrection is all of the EVIL DEAD and I am not talking about the Band. 
Though they will be a part of it.  Or was that the Grateful Dead.  I’m not sure.

 
Donald Ledbetter

I did not plan to write this article. I awoke one night. went to my computer and began typing. The words just flowed out of my head and into my computer like it was someone else doing it.

Comment by Chandler Fulton on August 1, 2012 at 11:48am

The key to the phrase "under the Torah" is found in Galatians.  Paul condemned those that were desiring to be "under the Torah".  Some of the assembly in Galatia were accepting another "good news" brought to them by some of the circumcision group.  The circumcision group was telling the "gentile" believers that they needed to be circumcised.  Paul told them that if they were circumcised in order to be righteous before Elohim that "Messiah will profit you nothing". Paul furthermore said in Galatians 6 that:

15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of Elohim.

So, being "under the Torah" means to strive to attain righteousness by keeping the Torah, apart from the Spirit of YHWH.  Paul says that those who do so have fallen away from the favor of Elohim. 

Keeping the Torah to the best of a believer's ability is commanded.  It is the Way we are to live and walk.  But keeping the Torah in order to become righteous before Elohim is to pursue works for deliverance, and that person will fail as long as this is attempted in the flesh.  We walk in the Spirit and YHWH and Messiah ENABLE us to keep the Torah out of love.  One cannot keep the Torah unless the Spirit of YHWH enables him or her.  Even then, we cannot keep the Torah perfectly, but we ask for forgiveness for our failures, and the blood of Messiah cleanses us from all sin. 

Comment by James Trimm on August 1, 2012 at 11:51am

Donald,

Nazarene Judaism is proof that you are wrong... we ARE Jews.

Comment by James Trimm on August 1, 2012 at 12:01pm

All,

I made important additions to the above blog, you may want to reread it.

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