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How do you define "Jewish"?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jake Wilson Feb 16. 16 Replies

Hi there,My question is how you define "Jewish" (leaving aside distinctions such as Ashkenazic, Sephardic, Karaite, or secular Jews, etc.). I personally would simply distinguish between ethnical Jews…Continue

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Apr 19
Jake Wilson left a comment for James Trimm
"Dear James, I have purchased the HRV the other day, and it's by far the best Bible I've ever had. Thank you for all the work you have put into it - amazing. One question: Nehemia Gordon (& Michael Rood) presented a Hebrew manuscript, I…"
Mar 21
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Hi Mikha, Excuse the lateness; attached is a reply which got a bit longer. This is my last contribution to this discussion. Not because of different views, but simply because I want to spend more time doing that what I've been writing about:…"
Feb 16
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Jake, My answer "doesn't make any sense" to you perhaps because you are uncertain of the need to be immersed (...of course for initial believer) more than once? Why again are you adamant that "audibly" speaking/praying in…"
Jan 26
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Hi Mikha, Again a few misunderstandings it seems: # I meant that the persecution of the Jews started with Constantine, i.e., and of course of anyone else who didn't submit (judaiziers, etc.). # I meant corrupted by Rome, which hates Torah &…"
Jan 26
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Jake, The "50 million" people you have mentioned might have been called most anything by their murderers no doubt. "Heretic, Backsliding X-tian" etc, etc. Can anyone now living say with all certainty what each one murdered were…"
Jan 26
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Hi Mikha, OK, fair enough – I think I should really drop the pagan term Christian. But what should we call those 50 million who were slain by Mystery Babylon? Many people would refer to Protestants, Anabaptists, Waldensians, etc. as…"
Jan 23
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Sure right after you've answered my question you have ignored: ________________________ Quote me: Why do you insist on associating yourself with mystery Babylon? _________________________"
Jan 22
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Mikha, In order to shorten this debate, and as we seem to talk past one another, can you please answer one question : Have you fulfilled this scripture: Repent and be immersed, each man of you, in the Name of YHWH Yeshua for the remission of sins,…"
Jan 22
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Jake, Your misguided instance on getting the order of things we are discussing (1...accepting Yeshua, 2) accepting His Word) correct according to your leanings is only as accurate as the programming you have been exposed to in your Twistian…"
Jan 22
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"If you could save yourself by keeping Torah, why was Yeshua crucified? Because He, the innocent, took the death penalty, for you the guilty! And if you don't claim what He did for you, by repenting, being immersed in His name, and receiving the…"
Jan 21
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
""and we won't get rid of that sinful nature by starting to obey torah" Your right, my preposition was wrong Ditto what I said above though. You are contradicting yourself. Do you really think that someone that realizes the need for…"
Jan 21
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Mikha, It's not about being "dead to sin", but "dead in sins" (Eph 2:5). We were made sinners by Adam's transgression (Rom 5:19), and we won't get rid of that sinful nature by starting to obey Torah. Even…"
Jan 21
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Appears we will need to agree to disagree then. In my eyes it's contradictory to state, 1) "torah (teachings/instructions) adherence doesn't have any bearing on your standing before Eloah" and then...2) "as long as you are…"
Jan 21
Jake Wilson replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Your preface has been duly noted, and it shows that you are putting the cart before the horse. Torah adherence doesn't have any bearing on your standing before Eloah, as long as you are dead in your sins (For circumcision is…"
Jan 21
Mikha El replied to Jake Wilson's discussion How do you define "Jewish"?
"Jake, Notice above I prefaced my statements with, "For starters"? Torah obedience/acceptance while I agree does not justify anyone, I cannot agree that it is is trivial as you seem to have alluded to with the statement "not really…"
Jan 20

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Do you consider yourself a:
Christian
Books I consider Canonical:
Tanak (Old Testament), Ketuvim Netzarim (New Testament), The Apocrypha, The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jasher
Favorite version of Scriptures:
Hebraic Roots Version
About me:
I have been in a Pentecostal church for 25 years (I speak in tongues) before I was excommunicated as I wanted to keep Shabbat. In Paul's sense I am Jewish as I have received the Holy Spirit = circumcised in heart. I would also like to get physically circumcised (Brit Milah), but it's difficult to find someone to perform this here in Scotland, or it's very expensive.

I have visited Israel three times, and just got back with a set of 'kosher' tzitzits (with tekhelet), and I also wear them.

Generally, I have figured out that nothing of the Torah has been abolished, and that a true 'Christian' (if you still allow the term) seeks to obey the entire Torah on top of accepting Christ - not in order to be saved, but because he loves God.

Though there are many beautiful Jewish customs, I reject the Oral Law if it violates the Written Torah or if people scold you because you don't comply to tradition (e.g. I just enjoyed my first Passover seder, got rid of yeast beforehand, etc.)

I've just started reading the HRV, and I think it's my favourite version of scripture. Until now it had been the KJV, as I wasn't aware that the Greek is already a corruption (surprise, surprise - considering all the replacement elsewhere). Whether those apocrypha mentioned are canonical, I can't tell at the moment, but I have started reading Jasher, Jubilees & Enoch a while ago.
Marital Status
Married
Music:
I like "Hatikvah", "Jerusalem of Gold" and "The Messiah" from Haendel.
Generally, classical & Jewish music.
Interests:
Hebrew language (started to learn), history.
Favorite Television Shows and Movies:
# The Young Messiah (2016)
# Risen
# AD Kingdom
# Ben Hur (old and new version)
What is your favorite Book of the Scriptures?
n/a
What is your favorite verse?
n/a
What is your favorite quote? (From Scripture or elsewhere)
n/a
How did you hear of NazareneSpace?
I had found out that, e.g., the Waldensians kept Shabbat and were thus killed. I guess browsing the Internet on this topic, i.e., 'Christians' keeping the Torah, etc. - and then I landed on NazareneSpace by 'coincidence' (though I don't believe in coincidences).

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