"To follow Elohim, you have to have a major degree of the Holy Spirit, if not, you are left to your own pride, vanity and desires. I see this over and over again in the Scriptures,and in many about me in life, those without…"
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"Elohim requires a physical tithe to run his kingdom and to accomplish his work upon this earth.He could do it all, but that is not the plan, he has given a most precious gift, the chance to learn to be like him, but it requires great love…"
"We are told to stand on Holy Ground, if we are Holy, that ground we stand is Holy, and we have great influence in gods name to affect others in his work. We are in deed warned to keep a watchful eye, by those who lay in wait to decieve…"
"I really don't understand why this has become such a hot topic, as has already be stated. DR Trimm puts out very thought out information, from what I have seen; like Dael, I agree with much of it, but not all. I find that…"
"Dael, Lew, and etc, thank-you very much; Words of light, not Words and thoughts stuck in the Letter of the Law. We cannot get stuck in the Letter of the Law, as early Hebrews and Jews did, it can lead eventual to separation from God, and being…"
"Dael, Lew, and etc, thank-you very much; Words of light, not Words and thoughts stuck in the Letter of the Law. We cannot get stuck in the Letter of the Law, as early Hebrews and Jews did, it can lead eventual to separation from God, and being…"
"In my minds eye, we all to often turn God's truths and simple things of life, into stumbling blocks for ourselves and others, what makes something wrong or right, is more about what Spirit you are doing…"
"Nice to see these facts come to light, in more and more places. God did give his choosen people a warming/promise, that he would eventuially scatter them throughout the world, through out all peoples of the earth, as a blessing for…"
"I always enjoy the beauty of the Words of God, and the Stories about the Olive Tree, in its many forms.
To keep it simple, I always like simple; Gods plan is simple, if we don't look beyond…"
"Yes, I also find that Acts 10 tends to throw many off course, from the actual truth of the spiriutal message; it was about the Gospel going to the Gentiles and their uncleaness in some eyes. I guess some don't…"
"This only makes sense, Lucifer tries to take away our agency by limiitng knowledge, anyway he can and putting up something in its place that is not true; When the only true source is God and his Words."
"Thanks again.
I am aware that some Gentile Christians wanted to separate themselves from the Jewsish Christians, to be spared Rome's hit on them too. So much that they even helped to fuel the hatred toward the Jews; the…"
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I know that Jesus did not set us free from the Law, he came to fullfill the law. He just gave us a new approach, he opened a door, if one can call it that. The knowledge and light he brought, can give one greater agency.…"
"My very thoughts this morning, thinking that the statement and question and intent of this thread had gone astray. Through out the Scriptures, you see time and time again, govermental and religous leaders subverting Gods will and plans…"
"I am sorry Don, but I cannot believe in a God that would be so narrow minded. I know that God is no respector of persons, he does not place one before another, except maybe those that know him more personally. A name is just a name, and names change…"
"I can surely see why Rabbis today would not want their people to accept Modern Pagan Christendom, I find it full of untruths and schemes, used to control the people for power and gain. That seemed to quickly creep in, as…"
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- Do you consider yourself a:
- Ephraimite
- Books I consider Canonical:
- Tanak (Old Testament), Ketuvim Netzarim (New Testament), The Apocrypha, The Book of Enoch, The Book of Jasher
- About me:
- I am a Epharimite in Israel. I am Christan, but live a higher law then those around me. I turn to the Holy Ghost to guide me, don't eat pork or etc unclean foods, have a beard. I guess one leg in couple different realties.
- Marital Status
- Married
- Music:
- Love old 60s soft rock and roll, but but more my love is Celtic music with more primal and middle eastern influence.
- Interests:
- Genealogy, rare and subtropical fruit research, learning to develop the spiritual gifts God gave me. Two important things in life, God has required of those who now his will, maintaining family history and planting fruit trees and etc.
- Favorite Television Shows and Movies:
- Love most high quality Sci Fi, Cop, PI, Military, adventure.
- What is your favorite Book of the Scriptures?
- I have many favorite books, two of them are Ephesians and James
- What is your favorite verse?
- I have many verses which are my favorites.
- What is your favorite quote? (From Scripture or elsewhere)
- This came from my high school science teacher, "Better a fool for 5 minutes then a fool for ever." by Mr Wingo. The older I have become, the more I have learned to live its wisdom, not matter the source.
The next one is from a past friend I have since lost contact with. Obedience produces intelligence, disobedience produces ignorance, knowledge is not connected to either. by Jerry Stafford. A very simple, yet profound observation, when you look at the world of God and then those lost in Babylon, it becomes totally clear.
- How did you hear of NazareneSpace?
- I have a distant cousin, who must of sent me a email about it,or it came from James Trimm, after we had a brief email dialog.
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- At 10:12am on November 10, 2011,
David Katcher said… James wrote: The Bible never mentions a power to "seal" things on heaven or on earth. The Bible only speaks of "binding" and "loosing" things on heaven or on earth. The term "seal" in this context comes from the Mormon Scriptures.
Yes the Bible does mention SEAL:
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
38 And because of all this we make a sure covenant, and write it; and our princes, Levites, and priests, seal unto it.
Revelation 7:5 Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
James: Your reference to priesthood "keys" is also not found in the Bible but only in the Mormon Scriptures.
Yes ‘keys’ are mentioned in the Bible:
Matthew 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
James: The concept of a Melchizadek priestood is nowhere to be found in the Bible. It is a Mormon teaching that the Priesthood "after the order of Melchizadek" mentioned in Ps. 110 and Hebrews is as you describe.
Actually in English we hear "order" and we think of an "order" of monks or nuns, and so some read of a priesthood "after the order of Melchizadek" and they think it is some "Order" of Priests. In fact this is not what the Hebrew phrase indicates. The Hebrew word translated "order" is DIVRA and the word for "after" is AL (a very ambiguous preposition which most often means "about" or "concerning" but can also have many other meanings like "above" or "over" or "against" etc. . DIVRA means literally "cause" or "reason" and the phrase AL DIVRA could literally be translated "after the reason/cause of Melchizadek" that is to say "A priest for the same reason as Melchizadek." How was Melchizadek a Priest without being a Levite? Simple, he recieved the priesthood before it was limited to Levites only. Messiah was a priest forever "for the same reason" as Melchizadek, like Melchizadek, Messiah receive the priesthood BEFORE it was restricted to Levites only.
Yes the term MELCHIZEDEK is in the Bible!
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
James, I would add that Heb. 7:21 calls this an "unchangeable" priesthood. The word here can literally be rendered to mean "non-transferable". In other words this priesthood is "unchangeable" in that it can not be transferred from one person to another. The High Priesthood could be transferred from one High Priest to another, but the "priesthood" that Messiah had "by the same reason as Melchizadek" (i.e. that he had from BEFORE the time of the Aaronic Priests) was not like the High Priesthood of Aaron in that it was non-transferable, it was Messiah's and only Messiah's forever.
MRD Hebrews 7:24 but this man, because he standeth up for ever, his priesthood doth not pass away:
Your interpretation is in error AGAIN. It’s better rendered PASS AWAY. This is because Yahushua’s priesthood was after the order of Melchizedek, and the priesthood He overroad was a ‘temporal/carnal’ priesthood, as when the second time the Torah was given, the order of Melchizedek was REMOVED from the people. After Yahushua was immersed by Yochanan, He had all that was necessary to overcome death for the nation of Israel and the world.
- At 10:15am on November 10, 2011, David Katcher said…
This is for the Cost of the Covenant post
- At 3:29pm on November 10, 2011,
James Trimm said…
You miss my point, the idea of "sealing" things "in heaven" and "on earth" is right out of Mormon Scripture and that use never occurs in the Bible which speaks only of "binding" and "loosing" in that context. Of course the verb "seal" appears in OTHER contexts in the Bible, but no one was saying otherwise.
Matthew 16:19 says nothing about anything it calls "priesthood" the reference to "priesthood" in terms of priesthood "keys" is unique to Mormon Scripture.
I did not say that the term "Melchizadek" did not appear in the Bible, but only that the concept of a Melchizadek Priestood does not appear. Melchizadek himself held a priesthood, and Messiah held a priesthood without being a Levite "by the order of" or "by the same reason as" Melchizadek (i.e. by virtue of having held it since before the priesthood was limited to Levites).
- At 6:53pm on November 22, 2011,
David L Johnson said…
Ok, I found this in my emails in box today, it appears that this is spam, as I see that she is no longer a member. My favorite rare fruit growing site had lots of problems as this, until the manager started requiring registration.
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