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For Nazarenes which lean toward the ancinet Essene sect, and for discussion of the Dead Sea Scrolls and Essene roots of Nazarene Judaism.

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Essenes and Nazarenes

Started by James Trimm. Last reply by Samuel J Caswell Jr Jul 23, 2012. 17 Replies

Gospel of the Holy Twelve

Started by James Trimm. Last reply by Samuel J Caswell Jr Jul 22, 2012. 5 Replies

HIPPOLYTUS: THE ESSENE TEXT

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Yachad = Essenes

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11Q13 The Melchizadek Document

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Pliny the Elder on the Essenes.

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Philo on the Essenes

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Josephus on the Essenes (part 2)

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Josephus on the Essenes (Part 1)

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An Eye Witness Account of the Crucifixion

Started by James Trimm. Last reply by James Trimm May 22, 2011. 2 Replies

Gospel of the Nazirene

Started by James Trimm Jul 22, 2008. 0 Replies

Essene Gospel of Peace

Started by James Trimm. Last reply by James Trimm Jul 22, 2008. 1 Reply

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Comment by Eduardo on March 9, 2009 at 10:36am
Hello-Shalom, im new in Nassarene studies, im truth serch, please help me all as you can to find the most correct path to God.

Ed.
Comment by Mike Clark on April 5, 2009 at 7:08pm
Shalom, look forward in doing study with this group in seeking the truth behind our essene brothers, a group no one really want to talk about, but a group I feel most of what we are looking for is here.
Comment by Mike Clark on June 3, 2009 at 10:37am
Shalom Ariel, are you from the Assembly of Jerusalem? Or may I ask from where?
Comment by Mike Clark on June 9, 2009 at 8:54pm
Yes, I think I know the group, I saw a interview with the gentleman who wrote James the brother of Jesus, right? Please give me some info, I live in Atlanta and would love a contact. You are right about the group in Jerusalem, very orthodox christian.
Comment by James Trimm on October 5, 2010 at 5:46am
See articles under "Our Essene Roots" at:

http://wnae.org/articles.htm
Comment by James Kenneth Campbell Jr. on October 26, 2010 at 5:08pm
I have a ancient/traditional Essenes forum located at the following url:

http://dsscrolls.proboards.com/

Anyone wishing to join may do so as this is a free service.
Comment by Jeffrey Wood on December 21, 2012 at 1:20am

They both excepted Enoch as Scripture like the Essenes.  Paul went to train in Damascus to train and the Essenes did the exact same thing. If you use the Syrian Psalter you have the same Psalter as the Essenes. The Ethiopian Canon includes Jubilees  

Matthew 12:5 Don't you know that in the law, it says that the only work that can be done on the Sabbath is work of the levites for sacrificing?

 

Jubilees 50;10-11 The Sabbath is wonderful and full of glory; God has commanded Israel to obey it, and that they ought to rejoice on the day, filling themselves for what is necessary for joyfulness, and that they must not do any work of all the work done by humans except the works of the priests. The work of the priests is the only work that is allowed on the sabbath day, because by it, Israel is atoned for and this pleases God and allows them to be accepted by him because they obey his commandments.

 

John 8:56 Abraham was joyful when he perceived the time of the Messiah; he perceived it and he was full of gladness because of this. 

 

16:25-28 Abraham was the first to celebrate the feast of tabernacles; in seven days he kept the feast. During this week, he was very joyful in his heart and soul and so also the same were all of those belonging to his house; no one in his house was uncircumcised. Now Abraham blessed his creator, that being God; God created Abraham because it pleased him to do so and he did so. And Abraham understood and saw that from him would be born an eternal and righteous seed that would be as God the Creator. And so Abraham did thus bless God. And because of this understanding God had given him, he was glad, and he made the festival of tabernacles, these seven days, holy and pleasing in God's sight; and Abraham did so with great joy.

 

Galatians 2: God gave his promise only for one seed of Abraham, for it was not to many seeds of Abraham, but only one seed was it given. And this one seed to whom the promise was given is the Messiah. The Law was first revealed to Moses 430 years after the covenant of Abraham was established. Now that the Law came after, this is proof that what came before has precedence in authority. Why was the Law given to Moses? It was given so that you could know what sin is until you become part of the seed then you dont need to repent anymore once you are in Christ. And the Law was given to Moses by angels.

 

Jubilees was given to Moses by angels. No angels gave Moses the five books, but Moses spoke to God himself for the basis of the five books. Book of Jubilees also says Moses received the law 430 years after the covenant with Abraham was made. And Jubilees calls the Messiah the "seed" of Abraham to whom the promise was made (see Jubilees 16 which i posted above)

 

Acts 7:23-24 Moses was 40 years old when he killed the Egyptian

 

Book of Jubilees is the only book that says he was 40 years old (38 if you want to be technical). NO OTHER BOOK says he was 40 years old. How did Stephen know he was 40 years old and expect his hearers to whom he was preaching to to accept his claim that he was 40 years old when he killed hte Egyptian? 

 

the quotes above are paraphrases

The only other group to except it as scripture is the Essenes. 

Comment by Jeffrey Wood on December 21, 2012 at 1:41am

Also they both  kept all things in common 

Also  Epiphanius called the first Christians "Jessenes"  

Also as Trimm points out in his Halakah about divorce Yeshua and the Essenes agreed, also they agreed on vows and oaths as well as with tithes. 

The Odes of Solomon which is believed to be the earliest Hymn book scholars believes it to have been written by an Essene. 

The Dead Sea Scroll text "Gabriel's Vision" talks about the Messiah rising in three days.  

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