Nazarene Space

Nazarenes were not Ebionites

By James Scott Trimm

This article is to demonstrate that Nazarene and Ebionism were two and separate entities.

Some scholars in their books group both Nazarene and Ebionism into the same entity as quoted below:

    "Since the Nazarenes and Ebonites (Unitarian Christians) are by all the Church historians unanimously acknowledged to have been the first Christians, or those who believe in Christ among the Jews with which, his own people, he lived and died, they having been the witness of his actions, and of whom were all the apostles, considering this, I say how it is possible for them to be the first of all others (for they were made to be the first heretics), who should form wrong conceptions of the doctrines and designs of Jesus? And how came the Gentiles who believed on him after his death by the preaching of persons that never knew him to have truer notions of these things, or whence they could have their information but from the believing Jews?" (emphasis added).
    ("The Nazarenes" by Toland, as quoted in "Jesus a Prophet of Islam" by Muhammad `Ata ur-Rahim)

    "Nazarenes continued to exist until about 400 [CE] declaring to the last that [Jesus/Yeshua] was the Messiah, that he would soon return, that he was the Son of [G-d] but not divine himself, that the Jewish law had never been abrogated by him, and that Paul was a deceiver who had perverted [Jesus'/Yeshua's] message."
    (Hyam Maccoby, Revolution in Judaea, p 818)

    "Thus a new Jewish sect arose known as the Nazarenes under the leadership of....James, based on the belief in [J's] continued Messiahship. The Pharisees did not regard this sect as heretical. Indeed, the Nazarenes were regarded as being within the Pharisee party until about 90 [C.E.]."
    (Revolution in Judea, p 168)

And more:

    "The event, however, that weakened the Nazarenes fatally and gave the victory to the Paulinists was the siege and capture of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 [C.E.]. The Nazarenes, as loyal Jews, took part in the defense of the city, and in the ensuing massacre most of them died. A few survived to continue an enfeebled existence... The remnants of the Nazarenes ... were regarded as heretics by the main body of Christians. To add to their miseries, they now for the first time came into conflict with their fellow-Jews, the Pharisees, who regarded the development of the anti-Semitic Christianity as proof that [Jesus/Yehoshua] could not have been the Messiah, and requested the Nazarenes to give up the Messianic belief that differentiated them from their follow-Jews In about 90 [CE] the Nazarenes were finally expelled from the Jewish Synagogue and became a heretical group in Judaism as well as Christianity. The Nazarenes continued to exist until about 400 [CE] declaring to the last that [Jesus/Yeshua] was the Messiah, that he would soon return, that he was the Son of [Elohim] but not divine himself, that the Jewish law had never been abrogated by him, and that Paul was a deceiver who had perverted [Jesus/Yeshua's] message."
    (Revolution in Judea, p 181)

To demonstrate the total error of this statement error lets do a comparison.

#1: WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT YESHUA

NAZARENES:

    "The adherents to this sect are known commonly as Nazarenes; they believe in Christ the Son of God, born of, the Virgin Mary; and they say that He who suffered under Pontius Pilate and rose again, is the same as the one in whom we believe."
    (Letter 75 Jerome to Augustine)

    "For they acknowledge both the resurrection of the dead and the divine creation of all things, and declare that G-d is one, and that his son is Y'shua the Messiah."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 29)

EBIONITES:

    "Those who are called Ebionites agree that the world was made by God; but their opinions with respect to the Lord (Yeshua as a human prophet) are similar to those of Cerinthus and Carpocrates."
    (Irenaeus; Aganist Heresies 1:26)

    "The Ebionaeans, however, acknowledge that the world was made by Him Who is in reality God, but they propound legends concerning the Christ similarly with Cerinthus and Carpocrates. They live conformably to the customs of the Jews, alleging that they are justified. according to the law, and saying that Jesus was justified by fulfilling the law. And therefore it was, (according to the Ebionaeans,) that (the Savior) was named (the) Christ of God and Jesus, since not one of the rest (of mankind) had observed completely the law. For if even any other had fulfilled the commandments (contained) in the law, he would have been that Christ. And the (Ebionaeans allege) that they themselves also, when in like manner they fulfill (the law), are able to become Christs; for they assert that our Lord Himself was a man in a like sense with all (the rest of the human family)."
    (Hippolytus; Against All Heresies, 7.22)

#2: ABOUT VIRGIN BIRTH

NAZARENES:

    "The adherents to this sect are known commonly as Nazarenes; they believe in Christ the Son of God, born of, the Virgin Mary; and they say that He who suffered under Pontius Pilate and rose again, is the same as the one in whom we believe."
    (Letter 75 Jerome to Augustine)


EBIONITES:

    "God, then, was made man, and the Lord did Himself save us, giving us the token of the Virgin. But not as some allege, among those now presuming to expound the Scripture, [thus:] 'Behold, a young woman shall conceive, and bring forth a son,' as Theodotion the Ephesian has interpreted, and Aquila of Pontus, both Jewish proselytes. The Ebionites, following these, assert that He was begotten by Joseph; thus destroying, as far as in them lies, such a marvelous dispensation of God, and setting aside the testimony of the prophets which proceeded from God."
    (Irenaeus; Aganist Heresies 3:21)

    "The evil demon, however, being unable to tear certain others from their allegiance to the Christ of God, yet found them susceptible in a different direction, and so brought them over to his own purposes. The ancients quite properly called these men Ebionites, because they held poor and mean opinions concerning Christ. For they considered him a plain and common man, who was justified only because of his superior virtue, and who was the fruit of the intercourse of a man with Mary."
    (Eusebius; Ecclesiastical History 3.27)

    "But the heresy of the Ebionites, as it is called, asserts that Christ was the son of Joseph and Mary, considering him a mere man..."
    (Eusebius; Ecclesiastical History 6:17)

#3: WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT PAUL

NAZARENES:

    "The proclaiming was multiplied, through the Goodnews of the emissary Paul who was the least of all the emissaries."
    (Nazarene commentary on Is. 8:23-9:3, Is. 9:1-4 in Christian editions)

EBIONITES:

    "But the Ebionites... repudiate the apostle Paul."
    (Irenaeus; Aganist Heresies 1:16:2)

    "They declare that he was a Greek....He went up to Jerusalem, they say, and when he had spent some time there, he was seized with a passion to marry the daugher of the priest. For this reason he became a proselyte [through the Saducee movement, hence his working for the Temple police] and was circumcised. Then, when he failed to get the girl, he flew into a rage and wrote against cirumcision and against the sabbath and the Law."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 30:16-19)

#4: THEIR SCRIPTURES

NAZARENES:

    "But these sectarians... did not call themselves Christians--but 'Nazarenes,'... However they are simply complete Jews. They use not only the New Testament but the Old Testament as well, as the Jews do..."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 29)

EBIONITES:

    "But the Ebionites use only... Matthew..."
    (Irenaeus; Aganist Heresies 1:16:2)

    "they used only the so-called Gospel according to the Hebrews and made small account of the rest."
    (Eusebius; Ecclesiastical History 3.27)

#5: THEIR MATTHEW

NAZARENES:

    "They [the Nazarenes] have the Gospel according to Matthew quite complete in Hebrew, for this Gospel is certainly still preserved among them as it was first written, in Hebrew letters."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 29:9:4)

EBIONITES:

    "In the Gospel that is in general use among them which is called 'according to Matthew', which however is not wholely complete but falsified and mutilated."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 30:13:2)

#6: ABOUT BEING VEGETARIAN

    "(The Ebionites) Disdain for eating meat and even the Temple slaughter of animals, preferring the ideals of the pre-Flood diet and what they took to be the original ideal of worship (see Gen 9:1-5; Jer 7:21-22; Isa 11:9; 66:1-4)."
    (Dr. James Tabor; Nazarenes and Ebionites - An Introduction, 1998)

#7: ORIGIN OF EBIONITES WHO SPLIT FROM THE NAZARENES

    "Next comes Ebion, the founder of the Ebionites. He held doctrines like those of the Nazarenes...being from their sect, although what he taught and proclaimed differed from what they did..."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 30:1:1)

    "Their sect began after the capture of Jerusalem. For when all those who believed in Messiah settled at that time for the most part in Peraea, in a city called Pella ... that provided an opportunity for Ebion. ... They (Nazarenes and Ebionites) do in fact differ from each other..."
    (Epiphanius; Panarion 30:2:7)

#8: ABOUT SACRIFICES

EBIONITES:

    "In the Gospel that is in general use among them...reports: 'I am come to do away with sacrifices, and if you cease not sacrificing, the wrath of God will not cease from you.' "
    (Epiphanius, Panarion 30:16:4-5)

Views: 158

Replies to This Discussion

 

James,

according to point #4 above we should no-longer regard any of Shaul's writings as Scripture. 

 

Yet considering the following how would/do we rectify being numbered among the Nazarene?

 

Supposedly:
When Shaul [Paul] was first saved, he learned directly from the Adon Yehoshuah Himself. 
Galatians1:1 Shaul, an apostle, not from men nor through man,  but through Yehoshuah The Anointed One and Eloheem the Father who raised Him from the dead. 

Later Shaul goes to see Shimown Kepha [Simon Peter] for 15 days to verify what he has learned. 
{Galatians1:18} 
Then after three years I went up to Yerushalayim [Jerusalem] to inquire of Kepha, and remained with him fifteen days. 

Shaul makes claim that the 'same One' who was commissioning Kepha to the Yehudeem [Jews], 
was commissioning him to the gentiles. 
{Galatians 2: 7-8} 
For he that was mighty in Kepha in the apostleship over the circumcision, the same was mighty in me among the gentiles 

And at that time Shaul receives approval from Yahakobe [James], Kepha [Peter], and YaHu-Khawnawn [John]. 
{Galatians 2:9} and therefore when Yahakobe, Kepha, and YaHu-Khawnawn, which seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the righthands, and agreed with us that we should preach among the heathen, and they among the Yehudeem: 

Kepha verifies Shaul's gospel 
{2 Kepha [Peter] 3:15} 
and consider that the longsuffering of our Adon's is salvation; as also our beloved brother Shaul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 

And he (Kepha) says that those who distort what Shaul has said, do so to their own destruction. 
{2 Kepha [Peter] 3:16} 
yea, almost in every epistle, speaking of such things: among which are many things hard to be understood: which they that are unlearned and unstable pervert, as they do other Scriptures, unto their own destruction. 

Kepha, Yahakobe, and YaHu-Khawnawn having been with Yehoshuah on earth were in agreement with what Shaul preached. 
Shaul learned directly from Yehoshuah The Anointed One. 
He verifies what he has learned with Kepha, Yahakobe, and YaHu-Khawnawn. 
Kepha, Yahakobe, and YaHu-Khawnawn were in agreement with what Shaul proclaimed. 
{Galatians 1:8-9} 
But even if we, or a Messenger [Angel] from Heaven, preach any other gospel [good news] to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 

No point 4 tells us that EBIONITES did not use Paul... Nazarenes DID use Paul.  The whole point is that we are Nazarenes NOT Ebionites.  They were two different groups.

My bad - I got them mixed up, and I should have said #3 any way. I see clearly now :) 

I have been in contact for some time with the "Essene Nazarene Church of Mount Carmel" These people are Ebonites. I questioned them over their rejection of Rabbi Shaul/apostle Paul. They assured me that they didn't reject Paul or his writings. However, they also told me that they separate his writings from the teachings of Yeshua the Messiah. They said they do this because people mix up the two.

This "Church" does believe that Yeshua was the son of Joseph & Mary. Their version of the Gospel of the Nazarenes has Joseph & Mary committing fornication at the bidding of the angel of Aloha. see Lection II & Lection IV I questioned them on this, but they have yet to answer me.

Although these people claim to be followers of Yeshua the Messiah, I find that they stand on shaky ground.

RSS

 

 

 


















 

LINKS

 

 

 

 

Badge

Loading…

© 2017   Created by James Trimm.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service