Hilarious You-Tube video about the state of our nation.
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Permalink Reply by Yaacov on -
I thought Andrew Jackson was...
Christian said:Obama will probably be the last president of the United States
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Permalink Reply by 命 on -
It's not like I hope the US will be destroyed - I love the USA, contrary to what is popular.
The destruction of the US, just as it seems to be getting back on track, is one the great tragedies of the world that I think will happen, along with the destruction of Israel, and the removal of the Judeo-Christian tradition as a world influence, necessary for the rise of the Antichrist.
I have some thoughts on the secular, godless US government, and the meaning and reason for it's destruction:
These are my interpretations of the 4 horsemen, and the 7 seals.
White rider - West - American imperialism, secularization and deception
Red rider - East - wars and rumours of wars in Iraq etc, causing a backlash against the US and it's allies (giving America and Christianity a bad name)
Black rider - South - increasing famine and poverty in Africa, as seen in f.ex Darfur and Kenya (implying Africa and the sons of Ham will not be a political factor in the coming years - this would have been valuable information to the ancients, living at the time when f.ex Hamitic Egypt was a major power)
Pale rider - North - Russian / Chinese war against Israel and the US, beginning with the fall of Damascus (decimating Judeo-Christian cultural and political influence - a necessity for the rise of the Antichrist)
In essence, the 4 Horsemen symbolize the world condition that preceeds and explains the 5th Seal (global backlash against Christians, Jews, the US and Israel) and the 6th and 7th Seal (arrival and global acceptance of the Antichrist).
The coming world condition can be described thus:
The USA and Israel, having culturally (not politically) been the foremost champions of Christianity and Judaism, cease to exist as political forces.
The USA government masquerades as peace-makers, appear to be riding a white horse, but are practicing deception, and the true extent of the US government's ungodliness is revealed.
The Judeo-Christian tradition is put to shame by the secular government's actions.
The USA as the foremost opponent of a Eurasian NWO is gone, allowing it to finally arise and seize power for a short while - the NWO, Babylon the Great.
The Judeo-Christian tradition is then basically decimated, and without influence in a world dominated by the different Atheistic, Karmic, Humanistic and Pagan ideologies and politics of Babylon the Great.
This provides the perfect arena for the "new savior" to arrive - the Antichrist.
He will conquer and unite the world, with only scattered pairs of Witnesses standing against him.
He will destroy and conquer all false religions and false Christianities, and replace them with a worship of himself and his source of power, Satan the Dragon.
He will not present himself as the Messiah, the Maitreya or the Mahdi.
He will cause the world to worship himself and Satan, not by their true Scriptural identity, but under different names.
He will not synchronize any religions - he will destroy all our varied and different enemies, and replace them.
The Witnesses will thus only have 1 single enemy to fight, and not have to fight thousands of battles against thousands of enemies, Islam, Hinduism, Atheism - these will all be discredited and put to shame as the whole world, except the 144,000 submit to the Antichrist.
When the God of the 144,000 has conquered, subjugated and destroyed the Antichrist, the people of the world will not return to their old religions, but will be amazed at the God of Yisrael, who has protected and glorified His people.
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:I'm hoping the United States lasts long enough for me to leave it (2021).
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Permalink Reply by 命 on
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Obama corresponds to Pekah, the last King of Israel (the northern kingdom), whereas Benyamin Netanyahu corresponds to Ahaz, King of Judah. I suggest you read Isaiah 7-9, with this in mind - also, understand the King of Assyria as the Antichrist.
Yaacov said:I thought Andrew Jackson was...
Christian said:Obama will probably be the last president of the United States
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Permalink Reply by Smart on -
Nah just move to California, we're going to secede from the Union.
i hate the united states
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:I'm hoping the United States lasts long enough for me to leave it (2021).
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Permalink Reply by J. Jury (אליהוא) on -
I love the principles the United States of America was founded on. What I hate is how extremely perverted and twisted we've come. If you really read the Declaration of Independence, it is one of the most amazing documents. (I have even considered canonizing it as Scripture...) It's a tragedy how far we've gone.
We may or may not have more "presidents"... but sadly, they are all "politicians". We stopped having true "leaders" long ago.
I long to see a country with a true leader- not a politician, and not a celebrity.
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Permalink Reply by J. Jury (אליהוא) on
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I've heard rumors of states threatening to secede. But I don't think any of them have the balls to actually do it.
Chad Evans said:Nah just move to California, we're going to secede from the Union.
i hate the united states
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:I'm hoping the United States lasts long enough for me to leave it (2021).
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Permalink Reply by J. Jury (אליהוא) on
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Interesting. (Dalek voice) EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:i do not believe in democracy, thus I do not believe in America.
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Permalink Reply by J. Jury (אליהוא) on
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Hmm. I'm totally up for leadership by election, as the Torah seems to teach the people to choose judges to be placed at the heads of the tribes. Also, if you read 2nd Clement, or Polycarp to the Philippians, they both teach to choose righteous leaders.
I agree that no leadership should be able to alter a set standard of morality, hence why America is in the dire straights it is in.
I'm not a big fan of monarchy. :-)
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:lol. I believe in government only taught in Scriptures. So, Judges and/or Monarchy. As far as I'm aware, judges are not elected by the people.
In a democracy, the foundational rules can be overthrown. This is inexcuseable. And, i just think it works much more efficient when you don't involve the entire kingdom, especially when people half the time don't know what they are doing, and the other time, people know what they are doing that it would be better for them not to know. also, with few making the decisions, decisions can be made quick and easy without all that unnecessary political garbage that creates very significant delays. and when there are a few making decisions, there are only a few agendas. but with democracy, everyone is in charge, and there are a million different agendas at least.
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Permalink Reply by J. Jury (אליהוא) on
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The authority of the king should always supersede that of the priests, even if he is a wicked king. Yet I would like to see a system of government with no king, and a unified priesthood who judged with righteousness.
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:if its true what you say about the judges and 2nd Clement and Polycarp, I'll be forced to change my opinion on democracy, however, I still prefer Monarchy =). What I'd really like to see is a King with Judges and Priesthood. The Priesthood must have the highest authority always, then the King has the second highest authority, and finally the Judges have the least authority. This I suppose would be similar to American system, however, the King is not elected and it would seem also that the priest is not elected. But, the Judges would be elected (and in all honesty, I would be fine with the proposed system, where the people elect judges but not the king nor the priesthood). So, instead of democracy where essentially the people have all the power, I would propose partial democracy, where people have some power.
But yes, I believe the authority of power should be as follows: 1.Priests 2.Kings 3.Judges
In America, it is more like this: 1.Judges (includes both actually judges and legislative branch) 2.King (President) 3.Priests (Religion)
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Permalink Reply by Smart on
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I would also like to return to Yisrael.
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:well, maybe Puerto Rico will become the 51st state, and california will secede, maintaining the desired 50. i can't imagine california seceding. besides, I am compelled in the deepest parts of my very being to return to the homeland.
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Permalink Reply by 命 on
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I would argue this:
We have EITHER a Monarchy, or in the absence of monarchy a shofetocracy / kritarchy - meaning rule by judges.
It's one or the other, with priesthood subservient in both cases.
The Monarchy, especially if it is an expression of true Ruach-guided Theocracy, has the right to be authoritarian and absolutist.
The Shofetocracy must be conservative and to a large degree follow the principles of small government, limited intervention, economic/capitalist non-interference, etc
http://nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/shoftim-the-judges
As long as we only have access to sinful human kings, and by extension human autocracies and pretend democracies - would Shofetocracy not be a much better system?
I would never limit the power of the Messiah's government, but why give the same rights of authority to a human, as to the Messiah?
Monarchies, like unconstitutional democracies and socialist dictatorships, have much larger room for error, ungodliness and ability to damage it's people - I don't think I'm the only one who recognizes the much preferrable Shofetocracy as a system of government more (or fully) in line with free market principles and capitalist constitutional republics.
Anaiah Priel (Andrew P) Carlson said:lol, i suppose i was wrong about the order. actually, it seems the only flaw with the American system would be that Judges, Kings, and Priests are elected, whereas, it seems that Scripturally, they are not supposed to be elected unless it is necessary to elect them. when there are judges, a king, or priests, they are to choose their successors, not the common people.
I found the following that is claimed by sites I read: "While judge is the closest literal translation of the Hebrew term used in the masoretic text, the position is more one of unelected non-hereditary leadership[2] than that of legal pronouncement." "The Sanhedrin as a body claimed powers that lesser Jewish courts did not have. As such, they were the only ones who could try the king, extend the boundaries of the Temple and Jerusalem, and were the ones to whom all questions of law were finally put." So, you are right, it would seem the King had more power than the priesthood, but the Judges has more power than the king, or at least, that was how it was supposed to be.
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