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International Nazarene Beit Din
Rules Not Guilty on Charges against Lew White
December 5th 2010


“Bob Field and many others that work on [his] team" have brought the following charges against Lew White:

1.) SELLING THE WORD FOR PROFIT
Exo 18:21; Lev 25:35; Eze 18:4-13; Eze 22:12-16; Joh 2:14-16

2.) BREAKING THE SABBATH
Exo 20:8-10; Deut 5:12-14

3.) PROMOTION OF IDOLS, INCENSE, DRUG PARAPHERNALIA & ROCK MUSIC
Idols: Exo 20:4-6; Deut 4:23-25; Deut 7:26; 1 John 5:21

Incense and Pharmakeia: Exo 30:9; Num 16:35,40; Gal 5:19
-20; Rev 9:21, Rev 21:8; Rev 22:15

Rock Music: No direct Torah Command against it, but many
Scriptures collectively condemn everything rock music
involves.

4.) USING EVIL MEANS FOR GOOD
Deut 23:18; Mal 2:17; 2Co 6:14; Jam 3:11

The International Nazarene Beit Din has examined in depth the case which this
accuser(s) have brought against Lew White. We have also examined in depth Lew
White's defense. The International Nazarene Beit Din makes the following conclusions:

First of all the Nazarene halacha requires that a matter with which a person is
charged with be a "sin" (Mt. 18:15) and sin is defined as "transgression of the
Torah" (1Jn. 3:4).

Secondly by Nazarene halacha, in order to have standing to bring a charge
against another, one must be the victim of their sin (Mt. 18:15).

On the charge of "SELLING THE WORD FOR PROFIT":

The Beit Din finds no Torah command anywhere, including the passages given by
the accuser, which forbid the selling of Scriptures or Scriptural teachings for
a profit. The accuser has failed to demonstrate that the Torah forbids "selling
the word for profit". The passages cited by the accuser (Exo 18:21; Lev 25:35;
Eze 18:4-13; Eze 22:12-16; Joh 2:14-16) do not state that one may not sell the
word for a profit.

But what if one shall say:

Buy the truth, and sell it not;
also wisdom, instruction and understanding.
(Prov. 23:23)

This passage is often quoted to "prove" that Bibles and theological books,
tapes, DVDs etc. should be given away for free and never sold.

The passage does not specify any given type of truth. If we interpret it to mean
that we should not sell Bibles and theological books, it would also forbid
selling books containing any other truth. Books on
mathematics, physics and truthful history would also be covered. Yet those who
wrongly interpret the passage do not say that Math teachers should work for
free.

So what does the passage mean? The passage is saying that "truth" should be
treated as a commodity that we are only in the market to
buy (obtain) and never in the market to sell (let go of).

In fact Scripture tells us plainly that those who labor in the Word as "worthy
of their hire". Teachers of Scripture truth are NOT slaves, they are as entitled
to be paid for their time, effort, labor, service and productions as anyone
else.

But again what if one shall say:

or nothing you have received,
for nothing you will give.
(Mt. 10:8)

Sadly for years this passage has been quoted out of context and misused by many
to "prove" that those in the ministry should not receive community support for
our efforts.

In fact the verse in question is, in context, saying exactly the opposite of
what these people represent it as saying.

Actually, Yeshua in the next few verses following this statement instructs his
talmidim to request and subsist on community support:

Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor lesser coin in your belts. Pack not for
the journey, either two coats, or sandals, or a staff, for the laborer is worthy
of his food. And into whatever city or town you will enter, enquire who in it is
honorable, and there abide until you go out from there."
(Mt. 10:9-11)

Some light on this text may be acquired by examining a statement by Josephus
concerning the first century Essene sect of Judaism:

...and if any of their sect come from other places,
what they have lies open for them, just as if it were their own;
and they go into such as they never knew before,
as if they had been ever so long acquainted with them.
For which reason they carry nothing with them
when they travel into remote parts,
though still they take their weapons with them, for fear
of thieves. Accordingly
there is, in every city where they live,
one appointed particularly to take care of strangers,
and provide garments and other necessaries for them.
(Josephus; Wars 2:8:4)

Yeshua's talmidim had for the most part, come from an Essene back ground. It
would appear that they were therefore able to travel within Essene circles from
town to town without having to carry additional supplies.

Yeshua felt that his twelve were entitled to be supported by the community.
Yeshua drives the point home saying "the laborer is worthy of his food." A
saying which Paul later cites to prove that "those who labor in the word and its
teaching" are worthy of "double honor" which in context seems to indicate that
they have the right, like any other laborer, to expect to be paid for their work
in the ministry. In fact he even quoted this statement by Yeshua (Mt. 10:10) to
support the point:

Those elders who conduct themselves well
should be esteemed worthy of double honor,
especially those who labor in the word and
in teaching, For the Scripture says that
`you should not muzzle the ox, while threshing,' (Deut. 25:4)
and `the laborer is worthy of his wage." (Mt. 10:10)
(1Tim. 5:17-18)

Paul also expands on this thought in 1Cor. 9:6-14:

Also, I only, and Bar Nabba, have we not the power not to work?
Who is this who labors in the service (ministry) by the
expanse of his nefesh?
Or who is he who plants a vineyard and from its fruit does not eat?
Or who is he who tends the flock and from the milk of his
flock does not eat?
Do I say these [things] as a son of man?
Behold, the Torah also said these [things]. For it is
written in the Torah of Moshe,
`You shall not muzzle the ox that threshes.' (Deut. 25:4)
It is a concern to Eloah about oxen? But, it is known
that because of us he said [it] and because of us it was written, because it is
a need [that] the plowman plow unto hope and he who threshes, unto the hope of
the harvest. If we have sown spiritual [things] among you, is it a great [thing]
if we reap
[things] of the flesh from you? … those who labor [in]
the Beit Kodesh [the Temple] are sustained from the Beit Kodesh and those who
labor for the alter have a portion with the alter?
So also, our Adon commanded that those who are proclaiming his goodnews should
live from his goodnews."
(1Cor. 9:6-14)

Certainly the context of Yeshua's statement "for nothing you have received, for
nothing you will give." (Mt. 10:8) was that of a society in which all things
were held in common and each person's needs were taken care of by that community
(Mt. 10:9-11 and Acts 2:44 & 4:32) but we do not live in such a society, and so
citing Mt. 10:8 to those in the ministry today, is akin to asking us to make
bricks without straw.

To the contrary Paul quotes the verse shortly afterward (10:10) to reach a
principle by which those who are proclaiming his goodnews
should be supported for doing so, just as those who labor in the Temple and for
the alter are supported for doing so. In other words, Paul draws a midrash from
the fact that Levites and Priests received tithes and offerings to teach a
principle that "those who labor in the word and teach" should be supported with
tithes and offerings.

The International Nazarene Beit Din finds that "selling the Word for profit" is
not a transgression of the Torah, and therefore not a "sin". This charge is
therefore dismissed.

On the charge of "BREAKING THE SABBATH" the International Nazarene Beit Din
finds that the fact that Lew White's business partner insists on working on the
Sabbath in a business which Lew does not have controlling interest in, does not
constitute "breaking the sabbath". Moreover the accuser(s) have not shown that,
had Lew White broken the Sabbath" that they are in any way victims of that sin,
and therefore they would be without standing to bring such a charge. A charge
of breaking the sabbath would normally originate from the leadership through the
Beit Din itself.

On the charge of "PROMOTION OF IDOLS" the accuser(s) have cited only passages
against idolatry itself, not the promotion of idols. However the Beit Din will
acknowledge

that Deut. 13 would also forbid the promotion of Torah transgression. The
accuser(s) however have failed to show that Lew White has promoted any act of
idolatry. Moreover accusers have failed to show that had Lew White been guilty
on this charge, that accuser(s) would have had status as victims of this sin,
thus they would not have had standing to bring the charge. A charge of
promoting idols would normally originate from the leadership through the Beit
Din itself.

On the charge of "PROMOTION OF... INCENSE" accusers cite Exo 30:9; Num 16:35,40.
These passages only forbid the offering of strange incense before YHWH in the
Temple.

The accuser(s) have failed to show that the Torah makes a general prohibition
against the promotion of incense in general.

On the charge of PROMOTION OF... DRUG PARAPHERNALIA accusers found themselves
unable to cite any Torah passage to support this charge and so switched this
charge in their body to "Pharmakeia". The word
"Pharmakeia" is a Greek word not found in the Torah. Instead accusers cited
passages from the Ketuvim Netzarm which in their Greek translations, condemn
"Pharmakeia" (Gal 5:19-20; Rev 9:21, Rev 21:8; Rev 22:15). Where the Greek has
PHARMAKEIA in these verses the Aramaic has various forms of CHARASHUTA
"sorcery". "Pharmakeia"
refers to forms of sorcery that involved the use of drugs (potions). There is
some question as to whether the Aramaic CHARSHUTA has this same connotation. In
any case neither Paul nor Yochanan could create new Torah, so they could only
have refereed back to a practice forbidden by Torah. This would therefore
reference the following from the Torah:

10: There shall not be found among you any one that
maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an
enchanter, or a witch,
11: Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12: For all that do these things are an abomination unto
the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy
God doth drive them out from before thee.
(Deut. 18:10-12 KJV)

one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire,
or that useth divination,
or an observer of times,
or an enchanter,
or a witch,
Or a charmer,
or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wizard,
or a necromancer.

One that uses divination, literally "divines divination"

KOSEM K'SAMIM

"Observer of times" M'ONEN from the Hebrew word for "cloud" refers to one who
reads the future in the shapes of clouds.

"Enchanter" NAWCHASH from Hebrew: NAWCHAWSH meaning

"serpent". One who performs "magic" through consulting the Serpent HA-SATAN.

"Witch" KASHAF (also in Ex. 22:18) one whose "spells" were the result of prayers
articulated to false gods.

"Charmer" KHOVER one who cast spells by tying magic knots.

"Consulter with familiar spirits" SHAUL OV one who asks questions of the python.

"Wizards" YIDONI literally "knower" always used to refers to followers of false
gods.

"necromancer" DORESH HA-M'TIM literally "interrogator of the dead".

In the end the Beit Din concludes that the Torah transgression referenced in the
word "Pharmikia" is an act of sorcery, with the use of drugs or potions being
just part of that sorcery.

We find that the accuser(s) have failed to show that Lew White has promoted any
act of sorcery as forbidden by the Torah. We also find that the accuser(s) have
failed to show that even had Lew White been guilty of "Pharmikia" that they
would have the victim status needed to bring the charge themselves.

On the charge of "PROMOTION OF... ROCK MUSIC" accusers themselves have admitted
that there is "[n]o direct Torah Command against it." We find the blanket
statement "many Scriptures collectively condemn everything rock music involves"
to be to far reaching and without merit.

On the charge of "USING EVIL MEANS FOR GOOD" we find that this charge stands or
falls upon the other charges.

In conclusion we the International Nazarene Beit Din find Lew White NOT GUILTY
on all charges brought by “Bob Field and many others that work on [his] team"

Further more we find that “Bob Field and many others that work on [his] team" have failed to show that they even have the victim status required in order for them to bring charges against Lew White in the first place.

Finally we find “Bob Field and many others that work on [his] team" guilty of Lashon HaRa (Wicked Speech) and Motzi Shem Ra (Slander).

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Mr. White asked the accusers to specify what specific precepts of Torah he was accused of violating, with the Torah passages cited, that was the "charges" heard. As for "deception" Lew's ownership of this store was no deep dark secret. I have known about his ownership of the store for nearly two years now. Lew has never denied his non-controlling interest in the store. I see no motive for Lew to photo shop the pictures of the store, he never had to post them in the first place, and his defense has always been that he does not control what is sold in the store, so long as it legal, because he has non-controlling interest.



Ya'akov ben Shalom said:
James,
If indeed the photographs have been altered as is alleged, then Mr.White would indeed have transgressed Torah through deception. Again, I'm not trying to keep this issue alive or cast aspersions on him, but that issue was not addressed. Further, I don't understand how those who have contributed financially could not be considered victims if indeed deception was employed. That in itself is designed to victimize. Why did the Beit Din not address the totality of the allegations rather than those pieces that perhaps are easier to dismiss? To my knowledge Mr.White has yet to explain why the photographs are clearly not "kosher", if you'll pardon the expression.
I will also say that when Lew demanded that his accusers cite the actual Torah violations, with Scriptures that they were accusing him of, altering photos was on the list. I myself have been the target of witch hunts and I can tell you that a common characteristic is that it is like fighting the pagan mythical Hydra, with each charge answered the accusers will throw three more. As far as I am concerned this is the end of the matter. This whole thing is a distraction from the work ahead of all of us, and witch hunts are not what we are here for.

This movement is so much better than that.
I will also say that when Lew demanded that his accusers cite the actual Torah violations, with Scriptures that they were accusing him of, altering photos was NOT on the list. I myself have been the target of witch hunts and I can tell you that a common characteristic is that it is like fighting the pagan mythical Hydra, with each charge answered the accusers will throw three more. As far as I am concerned this is the end of the matter. This whole thing is a distraction from the work ahead of all of us, and witch hunts are not what we are here for.

This movement is so much better than that.
This whole thing reminds me of a song Petra sang back in the 80's that I heard when I first became a believer in Messiah, it makes a very good point:

WITCH HUNT

Everybody look there's a new bandwagon in town
Hop on board and let the wind carry you around
Seems like there's not enough to keep us busy
till the Lord comes back
Don Quixote's gotta have another windmill to attack

Another Witch Hunt looking for evil wherever we can find it
Off on a tangent, hope the Lord won't mind it
Another Witch Hunt, takin' a break from all our gospel labor
On a crusade but we forgot our saber

There's a new way to spend all our energies

We're up in arms instead of down on our knees
Walkin' over dollars trying to find another dime
Never mind the souls 'cause we really haven't got the time

So send out the dogs and tally ho
Before we sleep tonight we've got miles to go
No one is safe, no stones left unturned
And we won't stop until somebody gets burned
Bro Bro Bro Bro Bro Bro Brothers
Well Mr.White has the opportunity to address that issue openly here. The photos displayed on the website are clearly at variance from one another. His response would certainly help clarify why. And the deception I mentioned had nothing to do with the store, but the photograph issue which would have been misleading. I don't have anything personal against him, but would like to know his side regarding the photos. And I honestly don't see how a complete examination of the case was done by the Beit Din without looking at that piece of the puzzle so to speak. All it really takes is an explanation from Mr.White on the topic of the photos and I ask for it openly here now so that no one can later accuse me of lashon hara against him since I have no reason to do so.
Well based on Mesiah's teaching, what you should do is take this accusation to Lew privately one on one. Then if Lew denies it one on one, you take two or more witnesses that saw Lew alter the photos to him privately. Then if he still denies it, then you could bring the case to the Beit Din, if there are such witnesses. Otherwise this accusation should not be discussed publicly at all.



Ya'akov ben Shalom said:
Well Mr.White has the opportunity to address that issue openly here. The photos displayed on the website are clearly at variance from one another. His response would certainly help clarify why. And the deception I mentioned had nothing to do with the store, but the photograph issue which would have been misleading. I don't have anything personal against him, but would like to know his side regarding the photos. And I honestly don't see how a complete examination of the case was done by the Beit Din without looking at that piece of the puzzle so to speak. All it really takes is an explanation from Mr.White on the topic of the photos and I ask for it openly here now so that no one can later accuse me of lashon hara against him since I have no reason to do so.
BTW I don't see anything odd about the photos myself.



James Trimm said:
Well based on Mesiah's teaching, what you should do is take this accusation to Lew privately one on one. Then if Lew denies it one on one, you take two or more witnesses that saw Lew alter the photos to him privately. Then if he still denies it, then you could bring the case to the Beit Din, if there are such witnesses. Otherwise this accusation should not be discussed publicly at all.



Ya'akov ben Shalom said:
Well Mr.White has the opportunity to address that issue openly here. The photos displayed on the website are clearly at variance from one another. His response would certainly help clarify why. And the deception I mentioned had nothing to do with the store, but the photograph issue which would have been misleading. I don't have anything personal against him, but would like to know his side regarding the photos. And I honestly don't see how a complete examination of the case was done by the Beit Din without looking at that piece of the puzzle so to speak. All it really takes is an explanation from Mr.White on the topic of the photos and I ask for it openly here now so that no one can later accuse me of lashon hara against him since I have no reason to do so.
I'll be honest here and I really have a problem with the way this has been handled, not the Beit Din but others I have been dragged into this by others sending me emails just absolutely trashing Lew. Some of these emails are from people that were brought into this movement because of Lew's book "fossilized customs" and if not for Lew they would still be in the dark. these same people are what I used to call Lew Whitians as they would follow and take everything he said and wrote as gospel without studying for themselves. Now they have found out that Lew is human and not perfect, congratulations welcome to the real world. They are angry because of the lofted place that they had put him and now they are trying to destroy him to make themselves feel better about the situation. Now I see where people have totally missed the underlying idea behind the Matthew 18 process which is love. I ask you where is the love of messiah in this. I have to say I don't see it at all from many involved. As far as the questions about the Beit Din that should have addressed before they were asked to mediate not after they hand down a ruling that you don't like. If you have that big a problem with the Beit din then I ask why are you on this site since they are the ruling body for this site?
You can't be serious. The photo's have clearly been manipulated by someone. Either to make him look guilty or as alleged. And since this is a public discussion here, posted publicly, the questions are certainly justified in being asked in the same public forum. Under the guidelines you mentioned if someone was accused of rape I would have to bring in witnesses who actually witnessed the rape, otherwise I would have to ignore evidences. Again, I'm not saying he is guilty, only that if he addressed the issue it would certainly put it to rest. On that note, I've said all I will say since I can see honest inquiry and transparency are not wanted in this instance.
"As far as the questions about the Beit Din that should have addressed before they were asked to mediate not after they hand down a ruling that you don't like. If you have that big a problem with the Beit din then I ask why are you on this site since they are the ruling body for this site?"

The Beit Din didn't make a public statement that they were going to hear the case did they? I've not found anything that says they did. That sort of limits any ability to question anything. Also, the Beit Din is not above being questioned on an issue. I didn't say I don't like their ruling either. I merely feel that they overlooked some aspects that should have been addressed by THEM with Mr.White. This website allows a wide variety of voices, most NOT in union with the Beit Din, so your question is null.
Are we talking about the same photos?

The ones at:
http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/electricladyland.html

look kosher to me.


Ya'akov ben Shalom said:
You can't be serious. The photo's have clearly been manipulated by someone. Either to make him look guilty or as alleged. And since this is a public discussion here, posted publicly, the questions are certainly justified in being asked in the same public forum. Under the guidelines you mentioned if someone was accused of rape I would have to bring in witnesses who actually witnessed the rape, otherwise I would have to ignore evidences. Again, I'm not saying he is guilty, only that if he addressed the issue it would certainly put it to rest. On that note, I've said all I will say since I can see honest inquiry and transparency are not wanted in this instance.
No James. That is where the disconnect comes in. I'll give you the link.

Look here:

(Link omitted by Moderator)

Take a good look and you'll see these photos have been altered.
OK I understand what you are saying now. I omitted the link, because I will not spread Mr. Field's Lashon HaRa and slander by having direct links to it here.

The photos you speak of were NOT posted by Lew White but by his attackers. If they were altered it was obviously to make Lew look guilty of something he was not guilty of. Lew obviously would not alter photos that are designed to make himself look guilty of something he is not guilty of.

Here is what Lew said about the photos you mention:

Old photos are being used from years ago when the building was leased to two other operations; one occupied the first level as a computer game operation. It was called "w00tz!", and they leased the space for about 3 years. Because they slowly began to promote themselves as a "gaming bar", we did not renew their lease, and they relocated. Yes, when they began to sell beer and promote themselves as more than a computer games facility, we wanted no more of it and did not renew their lease. W00tz! had a beer banner up for a couple of weeks, and soon after they were gone. Phase II of these attacks gives the impression that I put the beer banner up, but the accuser knows this to be a lie. Each bit of false information being "reported" has another TRUE story behind it. This attack is not only unkind, but untruthful, and behind every word there is a motive guided by some intense hatred. Most people realize this, while some are falling for the lies. Torah Institute operates on the first level of the building currently, and there are no banners showing beer ads, and we don't serve beer and ham sandwiches at the seminars.

How ridiculous would that be?

The Louisville School of Rock is a fine up-scale music school teaching keyboards, guitar, bass, & drums.

They are occupying the basement level, and the octagonal sign is currently used by them, and located on the building, not on the gate. The photos being shown by those on the attack are years out-of-date.

Torah Institute has a sign on the street level, as well as on the building.
http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/messianichallofshame.html

Ya'akov ben Shalom said:
No James. That is where the disconnect comes in. I'll give you the link.

Look here:

(Link omitted by Moderator)

Take a good look and you'll see these photos have been altered.

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