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Yeshua and Tradition<\/strong>
by<\/strong>
James Scott Trimm<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeshua himself seems to have also accepted the \u201ctraditions of our fathers\u201d which had been passed down orally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In John 7:37-38 we read:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAnd on the great day, which is the last of the feast, Yeshua stood \nand cried out and said, If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink.\n Whoever believes in me, as the Scriptures have said, rivers of water of\n life will flow from his belly.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The occasion is the last great day of Sukkot (Jn. 7:2) and the \nsetting appears to be the water libation ceremony at the Temple as \nprescribed by the Oral Law. A priest had a flask of gold filled with \nwater and another has a flask of gold filled with wine. There were two \nsilver bowls perforated with holes like a narrow snout. One was wide for\n the water the other is narrow for the wine. The priests poured the wine\n and water into each of their bowls. The wine and water mixed together. \nThe wine flowing slowly through the narrow snout and the water flowing \nquickly through the wider snout. (m.Sukkot 4:9) Yeshua said that this \nritual from the Oral Law was actually prophetic and symbolic of himself!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In all four Gospels Yeshua participates in the Passover Sader. The \nelements of the sader, such as the \u201ccup of redemption\u201d; dipping in \nbitter herbs; and the afikomen (the last piece of unleavened bread \npassed around and eaten at the end) all come from the Oral Law as \nrecorded in the Mishna (m.Pes. 10). Yeshua not only accepted and kept \nthese Oral Law rituals, but also spoke of them being prophetic of \nhimself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In Matthew 23:35 Yeshua says  \u201c\u2026upon you may come all the righteous \nblood which has been shed upon the earth, from Hevel the righteous, to \nZ\u2019kharyah Ben Berekhyah, whom you slew between the Temple and the \nalter.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeshua here relies heavily on the Oral Law in this passage in that he\n ties together two separate Oral Law traditions to make his point.  The \nfirst is an Oral Law tradition concerning the murder of Havel (Able) \nthat understands the plural word \u201cbloods\u201d crying out from the ground in \nGen. 4:10 to signify that whoever kills one person is guilty of killing \neveryone:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2026it is said , \u201cThe bloods of your brother cry\u201d (Gen. 4:10)
\nIt does not say, \u201cThe blood of your brother,\u201d but.
\n\u201cThe bloods of your brother\u201d\u2014his blood and the blood
\nof all those who were destined to be born from him.
\nAnother matter\u2014the bloods of your brother\u2014
\nfor his blood was splattered on trees and stones\u2026.
\nwhoever destroys a single Israelite soul
\nis deemed by Scripture as if he had destroyed the whole world
\nand whoever saves a single Israelite soul
\nby Scripture as if he had saved the whole world\u2026
\n(m.San. 4:5)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The second Oral Law tradition is one surrounding Zechariah ben \nJehoidai (2Chron. 24:20-21).  The extant text of Matt. 23:35 reads \n\u201cZechariah ben Berechiah\u201d.  This, however, seems to be a scribal error. \n A scribe seems to have confused \u201cZechariah ben Jehoidai\u201d(2Chron. \n24:20-21) with \u201cZechariah ben Berechiah\u201d (Zech. 1:1).  The original \nHebrew text used by the ancient Nazarenes read correctly with \u201cZechariah\n ben Jehoidai\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The fourth century \u201cChurch Father\u201d Jerome writes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the Gospel which the Nazarenes use,
\ninstead of \u201cson of Barachias\u201d
\nwe have found written \u201cson of Joiada.\u201d
\n(Jerome; Commentary on Matthew 23:35)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yeshua draws on a tradition surrounding Zechariah ben Jehoidai which \nis recorded in the Talmud.  This tradition parallels the tradition \nconcerning Abel above.  In this tradition Zechariah\u2019s blood also cries \nout for vengence but ceases its cry lest all Israel be destroyed.  The \nBabylonian Talmud records the story this way:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nebuzaradan, [After that] he saw the blood of Zechariah
\nseething. \u2018What is this?\u2019 cried he. \u2018It is the blood of sacrifices,
\nwhich has been spilled,\u2019 they answered. \u2018Then,\u2019 said he,
\n\u2018bring [some animal blood] and I will compare them, to see
\nwhether they are alike.\u2019 So he slaughtered animals and
\ncompared them, but they were dissimilar. \u2018Disclose [the secret]
\nto me, or if not, I will tear your flesh with iron combs,\u2019 he
\nthreatened.  They replied: \u2018This is [the blood of] a priest and a
\nprophet, who foretold the destruction of Jerusalem to the
\nIsraelites, and they killed him.\u2019 \u2018I,\u2019 said he, \u2018will appease him.\u2019
\nSo he brought the scholars and slew them over him,
\nyet it did not cease [to boil]. He brought schoolchildren
\nand slew them over him, still it did not rest; he brought the
\nyoung priests and slew them over him, and still it did not rest,
\nuntil he had slain ninety four thousand, and still it did not rest.
\nWhereupon he approached him and cried out, \u2018Zechariah,
\nZechariah,  I have destroyed the flower of them: dost thou
\ndesire me to massacre them all?\u2019 Straightway it rested.
\nThoughts of repentance came into his mind: if they, who killed
\none person only, have been so [severely punished], what will
\nbe my fate?  So he fled, sent his testament to his house, and
\nbecame a proselyte.
\n(b.San 96b)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While the Jerusalem Talmud has:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rabbi Jochanan said, Eighty thousand priests were slain
\nfor the blood of Zachariah.
\nRabbi Judas asked Rabbi Achan, Where did they kill
\nZachariah?  Was it in the woman\u2019s court, or in the court of
\nIsrael?  He answered:  Neither in the court of Israel, nor in the
\ncourt of women, but in the court of the priests; and they did not
\ntreat his blood in the same manner as they were wont to treat
\nthe blood of a ram or a young goat.  For of these it is written,
\nHe shall pour out his blood, and cover it with dust.  But it is
\nwritten here, The blood is in the midst of her:  she set it upon
\nthe top of the rock; she poured it not upon the ground.  (Ezek.
\nxxiv. 7.)  But why was this? That it might cause
\nfury to come up to take vengeance: I have set his blood upon
\nthe top of a rock, that it should not be covered.  They
\ncommitted seven evils that day: they murdered a priest, a
\nprophet, and a king; they shed the blood of the innocent: they
\npolluted the court: that day was the Sabbath : and the day of
\nexpiation. When therefore Nebuzaradan came there (viz.
\nJerusalem), he saw his blood bubbling, and said to them,
\nWhat meaneth this?  They answered, It is the blood of calves,
\nlambs, and rams, which we have offered upon the altar.  He
\ncommanded them, that they should bring calves, and lambs,
\nand rams, and said I will try whether this be their blood:
\naccordingly they brought and slew them, but the blood of
\n(Zachariah) still bubbled, but the blood of these
\ndid not bubble.  Then he said, Declare to me the truth of the
\nmatter, or else I will comb your flesh with iron combs.  Then
\nsaid they to him, He was a priest, prophet, and judge, who
\nprophesied to Israel all these calamities which we have
\nsuffered from you; but we arose against him, and slew him.
\nThen, said he, I will appease him: then he took the rabbis
\nand slew them upon his (viz. Zachariah\u2019s) blood, and he was
\nnot yet appeased.  Next he took the young boys from the
\nschools, and slew them upon his blood, and yet it bubbled.
\nThen he brought the young priests and slew them in the same
\nplace, and yet it still bubbled. So he slew at length ninety-four
\nthousand persons upon his blood, and it did not as yet cease
\nbubbling.  Then he drew near to it and said,
\nO Zachariah, Zachariah, thou hast occasioned the death of the
\nchief of thy countrymen; shall I slay them all? Then the blood
\nceased, and did bubble no more.
\n(j.Ta\u2019anit 69)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Notice Yeshua says \u201cbetween the Temple and the alter\u201d Here Yeshua \nspecifies the location of Zechariah\u2019s murder more specifically than the \nwritten Tanak does.  The Tanak says only that the murder occurred \u201cin \nthe court of the House of YHWH\u201d.  However the oral tradition recorded in\n the Talmud is more specific:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rabbi Judas asked Rabbi Achan, Where did they kill
\nZachariah?  Was it in the woman\u2019s court, or in the court of
\nIsrael?  He answered:  Neither in the court of Israel,
\nnor in the court of women, but in the court of the priests
\n(j.Ta\u2019anit 69)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

While the Tanak places the murder simply \u201cin the court of the House \nof YHWH\u201d, Yeshua places it more specificly in the Court of Priests \nlocated \u201cbetween the Temple and the alter\u201d just as the Talmud proclaims \nit.  Yeshua\u2019s source here is Oral tradition and not the written Tanak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These two murders are connected by the tradition that their blood cried out for vengeance, but this is a connection built upon TRADITION.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Many more examples could be given, but these are sufficient to make the case that Yeshua had no objection to Jewish traditions and even made use of them.<\/p>\n\n\n

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